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ultralaser:

Chelsea Peretti:

A lot of my friends are vegans now, which I don’t care: eat whatever you want.  I just think that my least favorite part of the vegan diet is the verbal part where they explain it to you.  It’s just endless.  They’re like, “I’m a vegetarian, but I don’t even eat milk or honey because it takes animal labor to make milk and honey and I think that’s wrong.”  And it just always strikes me as childish logic, it’s like “I like bees and I like cows…  more than the immigrants that pick the vegetables that I eat.”

milkeemountainmama:

nom-chompsky:

super-eklectic1:

alwaysaurora:

If they explained to you it means you asked.
Also, I am assuming that if immigrants do pick the vegetables I eat they aren’t being forced to do it, tortured and killed. Are they?

“if immigrants do pick the vegetables I eat they aren’t being forced to do it, tortured and killed. Are they?”
i pray that this is a legit question and not sarcasm. I really hope so….


seriously. jfc.
from the state department’s trafficking in persons report, 2011:

The United States is a source, transit, and destination country for  men, women, and children subjected to forced labor, debt bondage,  document servitude, and sex trafficking. Trafficking occurs for  commercial sexual exploitation in street prostitution, massage parlors,  and brothels, and for labor in domestic service, agriculture,  manufacturing, janitorial services, hotel services, hospitality  industries, construction, health and elder care, and strip club dancing.  Vulnerabilities are increasingly found in visa programs for legally  documented students and temporary workers who typically fill labor needs  in the hospitality, landscaping, construction, food service, and  agricultural industries. There are allegations of domestic workers,  foreign nationals on A-3 and G-5 visas, subjected to forced labor by  foreign diplomatic or consular personnel posted to the United States.  Combined federal and state human trafficking information indicates more  sex trafficking than labor trafficking investigations and prosecutions,  but law enforcement identified a comparatively higher number of labor  trafficking victims as such cases uncovered recently have involved more  victims. U.S. citizen victims, both adults and children, are  predominantly found in sex trafficking; U.S. citizen child victims are  often runaways, troubled, and homeless youth. Foreign victims are more  often found in labor trafficking than sex trafficking. In 2010, the  number of female foreign victims of labor trafficking served through  victim services programs increased compared with 2009. The top countries  of origin for foreign victims in FY 2010 were Thailand, India, Mexico,  Philippines, Haiti, Honduras, El Salvador, and the Dominican Republic.

There’s one for every country you get your veggies from, not just the US.

The abuses of farmworkers are extensive, well documented and have long been organized around. See the united farmworkers, the coalition of immokalee workers and the southern law poverty center to name just a few of the most very well known and more recent organizers/organizations that have done work around the violence farm workers live with. See this traveling museum that the CIW’s put together to detail the history of slavery in florida and what it looks like today throughout the US industrial farms.
that there are SO many vegans who are completely unaware of even the most basic history of farm worker abuses suggests to me that vegans have a LOT of internal work to do in the community around racism, white supremacy and the history of labor in the US.

all this, but also:

“If they explained to you it means you asked.”

HAH.
not only am i allowed to disagree with someone even if i did ask a question (burden of proof, oh no!), but vegan missionaries, like all missionaries, frequently don’t wait for me to ask questions before lecturing me about how great their beliefs are.
but whatever, maybe if i understood the science of it.
ultralaser:

Chelsea Peretti:

A lot of my friends are vegans now, which I don’t care: eat whatever you want.  I just think that my least favorite part of the vegan diet is the verbal part where they explain it to you.  It’s just endless.  They’re like, “I’m a vegetarian, but I don’t even eat milk or honey because it takes animal labor to make milk and honey and I think that’s wrong.”  And it just always strikes me as childish logic, it’s like “I like bees and I like cows…  more than the immigrants that pick the vegetables that I eat.”

milkeemountainmama:

nom-chompsky:

super-eklectic1:

alwaysaurora:

If they explained to you it means you asked.
Also, I am assuming that if immigrants do pick the vegetables I eat they aren’t being forced to do it, tortured and killed. Are they?

“if immigrants do pick the vegetables I eat they aren’t being forced to do it, tortured and killed. Are they?”
i pray that this is a legit question and not sarcasm. I really hope so….


seriously. jfc.
from the state department’s trafficking in persons report, 2011:

The United States is a source, transit, and destination country for  men, women, and children subjected to forced labor, debt bondage,  document servitude, and sex trafficking. Trafficking occurs for  commercial sexual exploitation in street prostitution, massage parlors,  and brothels, and for labor in domestic service, agriculture,  manufacturing, janitorial services, hotel services, hospitality  industries, construction, health and elder care, and strip club dancing.  Vulnerabilities are increasingly found in visa programs for legally  documented students and temporary workers who typically fill labor needs  in the hospitality, landscaping, construction, food service, and  agricultural industries. There are allegations of domestic workers,  foreign nationals on A-3 and G-5 visas, subjected to forced labor by  foreign diplomatic or consular personnel posted to the United States.  Combined federal and state human trafficking information indicates more  sex trafficking than labor trafficking investigations and prosecutions,  but law enforcement identified a comparatively higher number of labor  trafficking victims as such cases uncovered recently have involved more  victims. U.S. citizen victims, both adults and children, are  predominantly found in sex trafficking; U.S. citizen child victims are  often runaways, troubled, and homeless youth. Foreign victims are more  often found in labor trafficking than sex trafficking. In 2010, the  number of female foreign victims of labor trafficking served through  victim services programs increased compared with 2009. The top countries  of origin for foreign victims in FY 2010 were Thailand, India, Mexico,  Philippines, Haiti, Honduras, El Salvador, and the Dominican Republic.

There’s one for every country you get your veggies from, not just the US.

The abuses of farmworkers are extensive, well documented and have long been organized around. See the united farmworkers, the coalition of immokalee workers and the southern law poverty center to name just a few of the most very well known and more recent organizers/organizations that have done work around the violence farm workers live with. See this traveling museum that the CIW’s put together to detail the history of slavery in florida and what it looks like today throughout the US industrial farms.
that there are SO many vegans who are completely unaware of even the most basic history of farm worker abuses suggests to me that vegans have a LOT of internal work to do in the community around racism, white supremacy and the history of labor in the US.

all this, but also:

“If they explained to you it means you asked.”

HAH.
not only am i allowed to disagree with someone even if i did ask a question (burden of proof, oh no!), but vegan missionaries, like all missionaries, frequently don’t wait for me to ask questions before lecturing me about how great their beliefs are.
but whatever, maybe if i understood the science of it.

ultralaser:

Chelsea Peretti:

A lot of my friends are vegans now, which I don’t care: eat whatever you want.  I just think that my least favorite part of the vegan diet is the verbal part where they explain it to you.  It’s just endless.  They’re like, “I’m a vegetarian, but I don’t even eat milk or honey because it takes animal labor to make milk and honey and I think that’s wrong.”  And it just always strikes me as childish logic, it’s like “I like bees and I like cows…  more than the immigrants that pick the vegetables that I eat.”

milkeemountainmama:

nom-chompsky:

super-eklectic1:

alwaysaurora:

If they explained to you it means you asked.

Also, I am assuming that if immigrants do pick the vegetables I eat they aren’t being forced to do it, tortured and killed. Are they?

if immigrants do pick the vegetables I eat they aren’t being forced to do it, tortured and killed. Are they?

i pray that this is a legit question and not sarcasm. I really hope so….

seriously. jfc.

from the state department’s trafficking in persons report, 2011:

The United States is a source, transit, and destination country for men, women, and children subjected to forced labor, debt bondage, document servitude, and sex trafficking. Trafficking occurs for commercial sexual exploitation in street prostitution, massage parlors, and brothels, and for labor in domestic service, agriculture, manufacturing, janitorial services, hotel services, hospitality industries, construction, health and elder care, and strip club dancing. Vulnerabilities are increasingly found in visa programs for legally documented students and temporary workers who typically fill labor needs in the hospitality, landscaping, construction, food service, and agricultural industries. There are allegations of domestic workers, foreign nationals on A-3 and G-5 visas, subjected to forced labor by foreign diplomatic or consular personnel posted to the United States. Combined federal and state human trafficking information indicates more sex trafficking than labor trafficking investigations and prosecutions, but law enforcement identified a comparatively higher number of labor trafficking victims as such cases uncovered recently have involved more victims. U.S. citizen victims, both adults and children, are predominantly found in sex trafficking; U.S. citizen child victims are often runaways, troubled, and homeless youth. Foreign victims are more often found in labor trafficking than sex trafficking. In 2010, the number of female foreign victims of labor trafficking served through victim services programs increased compared with 2009. The top countries of origin for foreign victims in FY 2010 were Thailand, India, Mexico, Philippines, Haiti, Honduras, El Salvador, and the Dominican Republic.

There’s one for every country you get your veggies from, not just the US.

The abuses of farmworkers are extensive, well documented and have long been organized around. See the united farmworkers, the coalition of immokalee workers and the southern law poverty center to name just a few of the most very well known and more recent organizers/organizations that have done work around the violence farm workers live with. See this traveling museum that the CIW’s put together to detail the history of slavery in florida and what it looks like today throughout the US industrial farms.

that there are SO many vegans who are completely unaware of even the most basic history of farm worker abuses suggests to me that vegans have a LOT of internal work to do in the community around racism, white supremacy and the history of labor in the US.

all this, but also:

“If they explained to you it means you asked.”

HAH.

not only am i allowed to disagree with someone even if i did ask a question (burden of proof, oh no!), but vegan missionaries, like all missionaries, frequently don’t wait for me to ask questions before lecturing me about how great their beliefs are.

but whatever, maybe if i understood the science of it.

(Source: luckyduky)

 
Notes

  1. swirlingsurreality reblogged this from plantfaster
  2. mollydot reblogged this from impulsivefarmer and added:
    Reposted for info on trafficking, etc, not to mock vegans.
  3. homosruletheworld reblogged this from eyemahleighh
  4. ogdiana reblogged this from impulsivefarmer
  5. ageostrophy reblogged this from impulsivefarmer and added:
    also lol because no one ever is sanctimonious and informs your of their beliefs without you asking
  6. -cloud9 reblogged this from fictionincarnate
  7. indigodel reblogged this from plantfaster and added:
    they never said veganism wasn’t helpful, they just said that a lot of vegans are excessively preachy, while being...
  8. plantfaster reblogged this from impulsivefarmer and added:
    There does seem to be an assumption that vegans don’t know about farm workers or they just don’t care. Now, I can only...
  9. heyitsjosh1 reblogged this from eyemahleighh
  10. fictionincarnate reblogged this from impulsivefarmer
  11. caviarmpits reblogged this from impulsivefarmer
  12. impulsivefarmer reblogged this from cleanerlight
  13. jacks-cerebral-cortex reblogged this from babablksheep05 and added:
    Funny. I’ve been thinking of going that way for a while.
  14. playposts reblogged this from angelarobs
  15. jojobopper17 reblogged this from celbelrai
  16. celbelrai reblogged this from enasmathematikos and added:
    This has been hanging out in my drafts forever because I was hoping I’d get a handle on how to analyze or dialogue with...
  17. fantasma-fish reblogged this from anotherfeminist
  18. zenaga reblogged this from substitutingreality and added:
    THIS. I really hate it when people hear that I’m a vegetarian and automatically think animal rights are the central...
  19. kusobosu reblogged this from anotherfeminist and added:
    Uhm, dear lady in the photo, homnivores eat vegetables too, you know. Also,...cow eats...
  20. gilligansisland reblogged this from cali-sunshinee
  21. cali-sunshinee reblogged this from ddbombb
  22. substitutingreality reblogged this from somethingpithy
  23. elcieloyelinfierno reblogged this from trashruleseverythingaroundme and added:
    they (vegans) should just grow fruits and veggies out. we should all do it..
  24. trashruleseverythingaroundme reblogged this from chewylewy
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